Obama's Health Care Speech Comments

It is truly sad to see so many people here so eager to make themselves look stupid. Kudos to hunter340 for actually talking about facts. I don't agree with his conclusions, but at least he cited something concrete. These types of message boards need moderators - if you're not saying anything someone else hasn't said, then don't say anything. It's annoying to have to sift through your inane idiocy to try to get to actual thought-out opinions.

As for the illegal aliens, I'm already paying a thousand dollars a year for them (and so are you, as Obama pointed out). Any decrease in that number is a good thing for me. Sure I'd like to pay nothing for them, but I don't really want them dying from illness and having to be disposed of, either. Any immigration enforcement has to be accompanied with a plan for how to deal with the millions of people already here. I'm all for making it tougher on them, but I don't think they should be left to rot in the streets. Also, health is a communal thing. Do you want to prevent illegal immigrants from being treated for swine flu or any other contagious disease? A healthy population means less expensive health care. Less expensive health care means a more robust economy. A more robust economy means a lower deficit. A lower deficit means it's easier to protect our interests around the world, as well as to improve the standard of living for our citizens.

Also, it's very tiring to hear Obama and the democrats characterized as far left radicals. A far left radical would take everything you own and give you everything you need (or they think you need). If you think that's what this plan is, you're far off base. For one, health care isn't even a material possession. It is a service much like the interstate highway system; its existence makes it easier for people to live their lives without constraint and contribute to the economy. If we all drove on toll roads that were poorly maintained and expensive, and Obama tried to suggest that the government handle it instead so that you could focus on contributing to the economy, you would all decry him as a socialist or communist or whatever other word you think scares people. Barack Obama is to the right of moderate. He wants you to go out and spend money, to start businesses, to have dreams and participate in the economy. He is much more of a capitalist than a socialist, so please stop touting your ignorance and think before you type.

Ultimately, I think the problem that republicans have with the plan is that it's being framed in a way that appeals to democrats. Republicans - think of it this way: if John Doe doesn't have to worry about his health care or getting sick, he can devote more of his intelligence and intrinsic value to his career and his family, which is a boost to a capitalist society. John Doe can change professions freely, allowing cutting edge markets to attract more mature talent, which will propel capitalist society forward. Going back to my road analogy, in a communist society we'd all be expected to pitch in and maintain our own section of the road. Sure you don't spend as much time working a job, the communists would say, but at you get such a wholesome feeling out of contributing to the well being of your nation. By taking health care into government hands, or, at the very least, government regulation and security, capitalism is the biggest winner.

Think about that instead of your asinine comments.